Message Board: Social Issues

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RE: Homosexuality
Choicemaker
December 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Q: "Can government validate what nature does not?"

The priority of ideas and behavior is what this disagreement is all about. The rule of the mind - or its submission to carnal, unnatural priorities, appetites, choices, and behavior - and their unhealthy consequences.

Nature, itself, invalidates homosexual actions for there is neither mechanistic justification nor optional validation by consent under the laws of nature. [Often referred to by some as "a Darwinian dead-end."] To state otherwise is to give a perverse and simpleton voice to glands - not to powers of reason and its implicit tools of criteria and standards; tools which equip the human family with the ability to measure and anticipate consequences and thereby avoid some choices and choose others conducive to the healthy results of survival and progression.

The rule of the glands prioritizes such appetites at the expense of the kingdom of the mind and its inevitable recession as evidenced in every society of history past.

Should a branch of government attempt to validate what nature itself does not? Does "government criteria" equip us with the wisdom of vision for future generations? Lacking standards and their enablement, can we recognize - with foresight - the regression of our environment as thinking/choicemaking beings? Nature and History say, "No." Instead, we will become throw-back creatures of an insatiable, grunting, lascivious, and unnatural conduct.

Can anyone doubt that homosexuals, even in defining themselves primarily by their sexual appetite, reveal an unbalanced obsession with the carnal rather than the mental? Such desires can and do distort perception and judgment; principles and standards have minor or non- meaning for a those whose decisions are dominated by physical appetites triggered by glandular secretions -- not ideas.

In homosexuality, civilization rightly sees the threat of an anti-standards, anti-mind, anti-survival perversion of human nature. Seen against the background of history and nature, terms like "deviant,' "perverse," "weird," and "aberrant," are not epithets, then, but appropriate descriptions of homosexual behavior. Calling a homosexual "gay" is, in fact, an inhumane act, for it substitutes a platitude for the first requirement of healing such psychological cripples: objective recognition of their condition.

Additionally, many of today's psychiatrists have unscientifically finalized and capitulated to an illness they have ignorantly misunderstood; mis-applying a public confession of inadequacy and accomodation for sound diagnosis, treatment, relief and cure. Recall that "True science knows No Final Answers - only on-going questions."

Human experience is a kingdom of the mind and standards are its tools of measure and foresight. The public has the right and the obligation to set those standards and and to reject the abnormal and aberrant in the interest of posterity. On the larger loom of history, the struggle we are engaged in is but one more between the thoughtfully rational and civilized and the carnal barbarian. Nature is speaking with its constant and authoritative voice. Our temporary elected representatives would do well to pay attention.

We will, as citizens, teachers, and parents, continue to be attentive to that voice and maintain our transcendent support to 'the man of the mind' -- and of the spirit.

We will thoughtfully oppose all federal and California State Assembly and Senate Bills -- and Candidates -- which/who attempt to validate homosexual behavior as natural. We seek your thoughtful agreement.

vincit veritas
Mr. & Mrs. James Baxter
California
semper fidelis




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RE: Homosexuality
Choicemaker
December 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM


MIND Over glands

The defenders of homosexuality continue the oxymoron
contradiction of attempting to use the mind to justify the
rule of carnal glands.

Thinking Americans still don't give 'a tinkers-sham' what
homosexuals do with their body-parts. An individual or
a society which is by law and tradition committed to the
natural human hierarchy of mind over body will not, how-
ever, ever sanction glandular rule over the human mind.

Undisciplined human desire can induce distorted perception.
The disturbed personality or inverted character can be
considered to be cognitively confused. This description is
confirmed by the work of English psychoanalyst Money-
Kyrle, who indicates that it is more accurate to recognize
such a condition as the result of distorted perception.

Neurosis, psychosis, stunting of growth, etc., are all, from
this perspective, cognitive diseases contaminating not only
perception but thinking, learning, remembering, valuing, and
decision- and choice-making.

Money-Kyrle affirms that scientific truth is not attained by a
trendy self-serving fashion, confession of inadequacy,
abdication, or collective majority-vote. There is no excuse for
professional ignorance willfully maintained.

By definition, a standard that is flexible is not a standard at all.
The human mind requires a standard of comparison that is
invariable. A criterion must be greater than the value measured
in order to supply value-meaning in a predictable direction of
survival and progression. The mind thus equipped is enabled
to maintain a natural dominion over the body and its appetites.
The very survival of the body itself, therefore, depends upon this
maintained intellectual authority. Romans 8:6

Our posterity cannot respect what it does not perceive, and it
cannot perceive that which has been abandoned or inverted to
an appetite of physical expediency by the equivocal person.

With confidence in the laws of human nature, we can know that
in the clash between carnality and intellect, the 'man of the mind'
will always prevail.

That is nature and GOD's way and intent all along.

"No one is smarter than their criteria." selah jfb

Jim Baxter
Teacher - 30 years
pointman/follower of The Lion of Judah
Santa Maria, CA

semper fidelis
Sgt. USMC
WWII & Korean War

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RE:Homosexuality
missfaithfulheart
February 8, 2003 at 5:16 AM
Well,
I have had some freinds who were gay..but not like I could stand on a pedastal and say..I convert homosexuals everyday..so I am an expert.

One of my friends who was gay...is gay...is recovering...gay..what have you...is a minister...and he says...
" So what..you were born gay!" Now be Born Again!!"

Amen, and Amen...

answers for the question...
I posted the question to read the answers...lol...

are their simplistic answers for sin?
The simplest answer for sin is the blood of Jesus...and I believe as with all of us...salvation is a daily process...not a one time, lay it on me, I feel it..now I'm saved...

I also believe that any struggles with our flesh...really are very hard to defeat without the power of the Holy Spirit, fasting, prayer, and sometimes...isolation.

Sometimes we have to set ourselves apart, and meditate on God's Word, yield to Him one on one, and press in...

I think breaking bondages are definitely a case for this...

homosexuality is bondage...and I believe it comes with various levels...

there are levels like
depression,
oppression,
possesion...

I believe homosexuality starts off small...like most sins...and grows...

but ultimately...it is choice..and someone who practices homosexuality..has CHOSEN to practice homosexuality...no matter how they were born, who molested them, how many times their mommy babied them, how many times their daddy left them...no matter what the cause, or reason...

it is your and mine decision to practice the sin we are trapped in or wallowing in...

therefore ...

the blame is on us...
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